puffle_huff said:

You know when there's that nagging feeling tugging at you? When you really should do something, but you don't? Yeeeeeeaaah...I should have listened to that feeling XD. I kept procrastinating on getting an external drive to back all my stuff up, but I didn't wanna dish out the $75-100 for a terabyte. BOY WAS I SORRY, DERP :B.

 My computer is in a coma at the moment. She blackout at around 22:00 last night. The doctors are doing all they can, but she's showing little progress...they think she may not make it.(╥﹏╥)

  Just when I was getting all my stuff ready and working on a real story line, I loose her in my greatest moment of need! 

That'll teach me not to wait around, won't it?  

  

ONOES!

/hug

So sorry to hear that.

*shriek* @ news of dead computer. Ye gods, that's the worst. It's like having a limb chopped off. Perhaps the hard drive can be read as an external, to recover the goods?

You know, I have, like, four different backup systems, with a NAS, external drives, cloud files, and cloud backup. This had been a good thing!  I recommend a simple back up at the very least. More redundancy if you can afford it!

Oh my. I was lucky that my hard drive has always been recoverable. Backups indeed!

I plan on backing  the computer up two different ways (Carbonite and an external)SOTHISNEVERHAPPENSAGAINQ_Q

Oh, yay. Glad you're not totally hosed.

We had a rash of massive system self-immolations last year. OK, nothing actually burned, but they were at least that traumatic! So we're still pretty sensitive to the subject. ;)

so sad.  I knew she was ill from an email i got from her a while back, but didn't know she was in that bad of health until this all happened.

I don't know her, either, but she was both generous and well-respected.

Glad it's not as bad as you feared. Drawing is something I grew up doing but havn't done in decades.

France is gone.

[quote="Alisa Uh-Lisa"]The KCTC family is sad to
report that our dear friend and the heart of our group, France, was
removed from the respirator this afternoon, and all medication was
stopped, other than to make her more comfortable. Her family was with
her.

Our dear friend is gone, but she is at peace. She will be
dearly missed by her family, her friends, and the entire graphics
community who benefited from her generosity in so many ways for so many
years. We all thank everyone here for their support in this difficult
time.[/quote]

THread link: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=187220&start=240&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

GRIM said:

My thoughts are with the family- I have no idea who France is, but still... It is a painful thing to bear.

France is best known among the Toon Poser community for her sweet 'toon freebies and is well known to the Poser community at large for her longstanding service of hosting the freebies of popular folk like Chohole who would never be able to afford the kind of bandwidth that their freebies eat.

She was well loved for good reason by her personal friends and online family.  It sucks to see her pass so early.  Most of us are just getting started around 50.  >.<

Sad news.  Her generosity will surely be missed in the poser community.

puffle_huff said:

You know when there's that nagging feeling tugging at you? When you really should do something, but you don't? Yeeeeeeaaah...I should have listened to that feeling XD. I kept procrastinating on getting an external drive to back all my stuff up, but I didn't wanna dish out the $75-100 for a terabyte. BOY WAS I SORRY, DERP :B.

 My computer is in a coma at the moment. She blackout at around 22:00 last night. The doctors are doing all they can, but she's showing little progress...they think she may not make it.(╥﹏╥)

  Just when I was getting all my stuff ready and working on a real story line, I loose her in my greatest moment of need! 

That'll teach me not to wait around, won't it?  

  

*Rejoices*

Fabulous. =)

YAY! DEFINITELY a keeper! You should...buy her flowers. Take her out. Something. If you are lucky enough to have a girlfriend that cares enough and is smart enough to do that for you? Flowers! *grin*

that'd be enough to make me happy ;)

XD@Grim!!

ladyfur said:

glad the comp was saved. :) puffle, have i met you yet?

sorry, i put my RIP to francemi in the other thread
before i read this one.

scary thing was thousands read alisa's daz thread and
only a few hundred posted. (i pm'ed, because i no longer
post there)

after the last storm here we were getting blips daily :(

you'd be writing and then BZAP! comp off, no warning :(

turns out pacific power had an oops. a box nearby was
taking out the substation because of 3 wires trying to
have an orgy or something. this is not reccomended
behavior for electricity. it's fixed now, but we bought
a hundred buck UPS, but now are afraid to hook it up
because it's HEAVY and scary and has all these ominous
warnings...

anybody here know wtf one does to set one up properly
and not poof the place? hellllp.

Just read the instruction manual, they all come with one.  Usually the procedure is:

1) Open battery compartment and remove battery.
2) Remove cover from battery terminals.
3) Install battery.
4) Plug UPS into wall.
5) Plug computer into UPS.
6) Done.

Holy crap, I'm like a week late. Please accept my belated greeting. HAI LADYFUR! 8D /jazzhands!!!!

Good to see you around, Ladyfur. You seem to keep popping in after bed time here. LOL

If you have Poser Pro 2012 and you're looking at Genesis and thinking you'll be left behind, it's kind of like owning a car and wondering if your friend who's riding the train will leave you behind. 

Studio and Poser are going their separate ways.  It's not "left behind" so much as "different paths", now, because they're no longer going the same direction.

I've been using Genesis since I finally decided to get to grips with the Daz4 interface at the start of the year and I love it. It is just so versatile to morph and easy to mix and match clothes. I didn't bother with V5 as I can make lots of nice ladies with the basic genesis female and all of the morph packages. Can't make my mind up about M5. I want the toast but not really any of the other stuff that's in the professional package and as someone in one of the forums pointed out $30 is a lot of money for toast. I've been experimenting with attaching the M4 gens to Genesis and so far not so bad. Few more tests over the weekend before I make my mind up. Trouble is they've never released the V5 gens separately so guess they're not likely to the sell the M5 separate either. :(

Be interested to hear comments from anyone who is using Genesis and has bought M5 so see what 'extra' you get for your money in terms of creating male characters.

With geografting in the hands of PAs, it's highly likely that at some point, one of them will put toast up at MPE or Renderotica.

And there are STILL no shoulder blades

There is a scapular depth and volume in the evolution body morph package, so it is possible to (sort of) have shoulder blades showing depending on the figure pose, but it's true they don't properly relate to all of the scapular movements, especially rotation!

Think there are already some 3rd party gens out there being used with Genesis, but there's some issue or other with M5 and the geografting being on the hip material and matching texture colours. Plus the poor guy needs a hair prop unless he's going around waxed all the time :D

Nanobot said:

Shoulder blades...yeah, some morph is needed. I think Xaa managed to put shoulder blades on his Posey...

Actually, no, Posey's model starts with 'em. ;-)  That was one of my (many) complaints with later models made by Chris Creek, specifically Vickie 4/Mikey 4 and the current iteration, "Genesis" - no shoulderblades.

Nanobot said:

...but she's a bit of a rocket ship now compared to what Posey started out as.

Pretty much, yes. However, as some here may not be aware of what you mean, I'll recap:

Guess which character this is?

Is it the new Genesis™ character, strutting her stuff?



Nope, it's not.

Is it Vickie Four, showing us what she's got?



Nope, not her, either.

Ah, then maybe it's Vickie 3, showing us her old-school stuff?



Nope, not her, either.

So, which character is it?



It's my modded Posette - the Poser 4 nude woman.

As you can see, it was never necessary to add a lot of polygons like they did moving from V1/2 to V3, or a magical magnet system like they did with V4, or create a whole new platform just to get a character to look good like with Genesis. That really is Posette. She's been re-grouped, re-mapped and re-rigged, but the mesh is still otherwise the same. And yet, her bends and overall appearance is better than any DAZ product ever made. I've been tweaking her since back when Vickie 3 was new, and this is the result.


And this image is actually out-of-date, the current version of Posette I'm using is P11xV3_Rev4a_WM, a weight-mapped version of the above that uses Vickie 3 skins.

The problem with Genesis and DS4 is if you say "Hey, I want to do the same thing with Genesis"... Well, so far as I can tell, you can't. I know there are plugins that allow you to alter the characters, but I've had many conversations with people on the DAZ forums about DAZ characters, and I've yet to see anyone come anywhere near the results I'm getting out of a simple 60K-poly mesh with any version of Victoria or with Genesis, despite many of these friendly people I've spoken to being more than happy to tell me how they have more experience and more skill than me, and their program (Studio) is so tremendously, staggeringly better. I have to conclude there are only two possible answers to how this happened:

1) I am the most amazingly, staggeringly, astoundingly gifted individual in the world, far and away smarter, more artistic and more inventive than any human being on this planet who has ever tried these programs.

2) It's not me, it's the software.  Daz Studio may be a great program, but Poser is overall the better program, as once you learn the program, it allows you to more easily tweak characters for optimal performance.

Currently, I'm leaning towards option two, but feel free to flatter me by suggesting it's option 1. ;-)

That is the best explanation of the differences I've ever read. And also the best explanation of the reason why starting with Studio (for me) made a lot of sense, and now moving to Poser makes just as much sense.

I always want to be able to produce something quickly. I hadn't planned on getting as involved in 3D as I did when I first tried it. So Studio made sense at first -- a comfortable, quickly learned interface. And NOT something I wanted to see changed (hence my ire at Studio 4).

But now I want to know more, I want to tweak and enhance and modify. And since Studio4 pushed me into Poser, I'm happily navigating this new interface.