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  • Happy mothers' day! I had a lovely lazy one.
    Suspiro ergo sum.
  • dylazuna said:

    Yeh. I've got M4 enhanced as well and hardly ever used it either. ... and, no I didn't think you were picking on me :)

    I wasn't really trying to plug M5 as being 'super-realistic' out of the box. I think I made the point that a lot of people just want to load and render or if they do dial up musculature they do so without really having anatomical knowledge. If you're experimenting with M5 and saying he doesn't come up to scratch for you then fine, but I think to base an opinion on other peoples renders which may not show him to his best, so to speak, is not entirely fair since there are an awful lot of dials that can used to tweak pretty much everything.
    As to the amorphous nature of Genesis, I'm guessing that V5/M5 are the answer to those requiring a more feminine/masculine/less amorphous body. I don't have V5 so I don't know what 'improvements' over the base female you get.

    To me, Anastasia and I admit I could only find this piccy of her  http://blog.smithmicro.com/2012/03/12/poser-3d/blackhearteds-new-girl-next-door-anastasia-for-posers-alyson-2/
    so may not have been looking her best, looks far too 'stylised' and as if she has a coat hanger in her shoulders. As a Pilates teacher I'd be telling her to stop using her shoulders for earrings. Very, very few women have knees that boney or with calf muscles that pronounced (that I see anyway, maybe in the US it's different). Antonia has a very nice torso and realistic looking boobs, but again her limbs, to me, let her down. Then again, I tend to render more males than females and like my women looking like real imperfect ladies, not supermodels. :)

    But as you say, you pays your money and you takes your choice.



    I think we're in violent agreement over the figures. :)
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  • GRIM said:

    I, for one, have not renewed my PC membership.  I have enough crap to keep me busy for a year or so; between programs, tutorials, a few things I decided to actually purchase here and there- I have no need or want to keep giving them more cash.  I did finally break out the DS4 Pro and piddled for a little bit, and I agree with Jim on the anatomic issues with the Gen model- using the basic male/female or M5/V5 "models". 

    I did render one out, and at least the render engine was quicker than the DS3 A I have- same light set up on both.  Even with the hair.  Test run here is Gen with M5. D3 morphs, Muscularity and base morphs, David skin, Twilya for V4 for the hair and Nano's Scandalous shirt she made with the base textures.  The program, after conforming, worked well enough that minor adjustments were needed only on the shirt and none on the hair to get them to fit the Gen model.

    I will use all of my programs to keep my options open, however I still have a lot to learn on each.  In the end, what gives me the end result I want will be used be it Studio, Carrara, Bryce, or Poser Pro.  XD  
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    More violent agreement. And ooo, nice pic!
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  • Sanka on both parts, Nanooo!  I was piddling to see if I could come up with a Gen version of Mikhail, a more 'believeable'/ 'humanistic' version anyway.  XD  I wanted to artify, but didn't have the brain power to work with anything serious.  It's been a long week...longer weekend..I need to crawl back under the stairs for a few days and be a recluse I think. 


    That, or someone find me a quad-espresso with a heavy dose of Happy before things go downhill.  *Grin*

    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying that I approved of it. " Mark Twain.
  • GRIM said:

    Sanka on both parts, Nanooo!  I was piddling to see if I could come up with a Gen version of Mikhail, a more 'believeable'/ 'humanistic' version anyway.  XD  I wanted to artify, but didn't have the brain power to work with anything serious.  It's been a long week...longer weekend..I need to crawl back under the stairs for a few days and be a recluse I think. 


    That, or someone find me a quad-espresso with a heavy dose of Happy before things go downhill.  *Grin*



    Quad espresso I could manage, but the Happy? I only have the liquid sort.

    He's lovely, but he doesn't quite say Mikhail to me. Mik's eyebrows seemed more arched. Well, that and he has the trademark Van Dyke beard. (Eyebrows, of course, depend on the skin used. It's why I kept changing Alex's around for a while--to find proper eyebrows.) But those are superficial things.
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  • surochek said:

    Happy mothers' day! I had a lovely lazy one.



    Wonderful! Not me...but then, no mothers.
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  • Nanobot said:


    GRIM said:


    Sanka on both parts, Nanooo!  I was piddling to see if I could come up with a Gen version of Mikhail, a more 'believeable'/ 'humanistic' version anyway.  XD  I wanted to artify, but didn't have the brain power to work with anything serious.  It's been a long week...longer weekend..I need to crawl back under the stairs for a few days and be a recluse I think. 


    That, or someone find me a quad-espresso with a heavy dose of Happy before things go downhill.  *Grin*


    Quad espresso I could manage, but the Happy? I only have the liquid sort.

    He's lovely, but he doesn't quite say Mikhail to me. Mik's eyebrows seemed more arched. Well, that and he has the trademark Van Dyke beard. (Eyebrows, of course, depend on the skin used. It's why I kept changing Alex's around for a while--to find proper eyebrows.) But those are superficial things.


     


    They are important things! :)  Yeah, he isn't quite Mikhail to me either.  The facial structure isn't right, and definitely the arch to the eyebrows is not what I wanted.  For his morph it was part facial morphing part brows- and that beard.  XD  Do you know I never pictured my figment with one until I found that texture set?


    I can still hear him protest once in a while for it to be removed from the man.  *Grin*


    He doesn't speak Mikhail to me at all...but there IS something in his face I liked.  That, and the smirk.  I'll have you know your shirt conformed almost perfect to the Gen figure in DS4 Pro!  I was duly impressed.  The only tweaking I had to do was on the upper shoulder/armpit area, and it was minor.


    As for this past weekend I'd take that liquid Happy, with GLEE even. I'm so...durn....TIRED.....@.@

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  • Well, then, the bar is officially open. And it's barely noon on Monday!


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  • It's after five p.m. somewhere!  Whatchya havin', I'll take a group rate for the Three Wisemen and slap in a Four Horsemen to boot. :D
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  • Heh.

    Um, are those drinks? Or people? o_0

    Three Wisenheimers I think we could manage...
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  • Yeah, I'd like to know that too. Interesting names.
    Suspiro ergo sum.
  • surochek said:


    "down immediately" it says.  And promptly barf it back up in my case. That sounds awful to me.
  • Terre said:

    surochek said:


    "down immediately" it says.  And promptly barf it back up in my case. That sounds awful to me.


    Me too. I'm not into drinking strong drinks for strength's sake.
    Suspiro ergo sum.
  • I would...except that I loathe American whiskey, and mixing it with tequila or rum? Uh, no.  Hey, *he's* the one drinking it.

    *sets it up*  Several beers and ... I wanna see this one go down. *has a bucket standing by*

    Mind you, I have figments who drink like fishes...but have you ever heard of a sober fertility god? I think not. So there. ;)
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  • Actually it's scotch, whiskey and jose' if you have them all.  It's my usual drink. One shot of  Jim Beam, one shot of Jack Daniel's and one shot of Johnny Walker-neat, no ice.


    Sometimes I'll add Jose Quervo or Petrone if I'm feelin' it. 


    I haven't gotten ill off of the Three Wisemen in years- give me one beer, though and in the E.R. I'll be in about twenty minutes.  Last beer I had took three epi-pens and IV medications to counteract the allergic reaction I had gotten from it.


    The Wise guys?  Mm...A fav.  My record had been eight of them before having to stop.


    *DOWN*

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  • Edit- Johnnie. XD I know too damn many Johnny's.
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  • GRIM said:

    Actually it's scotch, whiskey and jose' if you have them all.  It's my usual drink. One shot of  Jim Beam, one shot of Jack Daniel's and one shot of Johnny Walker-neat, no ice.


    Sometimes I'll add Jose Quervo or Petrone if I'm feelin' it. 


    I haven't gotten ill off of the Three Wisemen in years- give me one beer, though and in the E.R. I'll be in about twenty minutes.  Last beer I had took three epi-pens and IV medications to counteract the allergic reaction I had gotten from it.


    The Wise guys?  Mm...A fav.  My record had been eight of them before having to stop.


    *DOWN*




    What on earth do they put into American beers? I have never head of anybody having an allergic reaction to beer, let alone of this magnitude. But then German beer only has four ingredients if I recall correctly: barley, water, hops and yeast ( the latter is not mentioned in the original the law of 1516).
  • I am allergic to hops.  I am also that allergic to echinacea- they both have a similar property that sends my system into hyper-mode and puts me into a near anaphylaxis state..

    I did take the echinacea once when a coworker came in seriously ill hoping to avoid catching what they had and found out the hard way (Two epi's and more IV meds) that I had to add it to my "never, ever ingest" list.

    *snort* I found out about the beer the same way- never had it before since I couldn't stand the smell of it.  Decided one summer day to go ahead and try a glass...and got whammied. 
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  • And they do put preservatives into some widely distributed American beers--so it'll travel, I expect. You want unadulterated, brew it yourself or go microbrewery.

    I tend to avoid wheat-beers and the super-hoppy, but I do make a darn good red ale. :D 
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  • Cornucopia3d is still having a nice little sale on sky presets, if anyone's interested.

    http://www.cornucopia3d.com/whats_what.php?first=1&crit=Sale
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  • Nanobot said:

    And they do put preservatives into some widely distributed American beers--so it'll travel, I expect. You want unadulterated, brew it yourself or go microbrewery.

    I tend to avoid wheat-beers and the super-hoppy, but I do make a darn good red ale. :D 



    Oooh, I love red ale. Well, except now it's only to taste, not to drink. :(
    Suspiro ergo sum.
  • GRIM said:

    I am allergic to hops.

    It may be some small comfort to know that this allergy, while rare, is not unknown. 
    Jim Farris, Author, Science Fiction and Fantasy
    Jim Farris, Author, Science Fiction and Fantasy
  • i got lost... ok, so i just posted my last post, there, on the artzone crossroads,
    waiting for it to go poof tomorrow, um, tonight, it's after midnight now. i wanted
    my last post to be i still miss artzone after seven months :(

    they cancelled pan am and gcb.

    i'm trying to cheer up, somehow. i can cheer for france mentally, but it's hard
    because calif. seems headed for implosion.

    otoh, i am up to 592 chapters proofread...

    i wish i could ever get inspired to do art again. i have a dollhouse half painted
    that i just abandoned last december when the ssi !@#$ happened... i should
    go pick up a brush and get back to painting it... but then i should get all the
    dishes washed as well, so...

    'mikhail'? as in barishnikov? i missed which post, but grim mentioned him.
    misha doesn't exactly look like that render, but it is an interesting face...

    oh, and all the boozes, wow. i drank port or sherry, that's it. now it's a few
    drops of kailua, however the f it's spelled, in coffee, or rum, same. oh, and
    a little bit of german killspitch that a friend sent as a gift for mardi gras...
    talk about knock you on your aspirations!
    ~^..^~ ladyfur
  • @ladyfur: {{{hugs}}} I hope something inspires you and best of luck on all else.
  • Love kahlua, much nicer than Tia Maria. Makes great milk shake too!

    Orange juice and apricot brandy makes a very refreshing drink for hot summer days.

    Can't stand the smell of beer/lager either. I've tried sips of various brews as hubby is a big fan, especially of real ales, but they all taste the same to me; and guiness is like drinking liquidised iron filings :)

    Mind you these days, one glass of red wine gives me a hot flush and keeps me awake all night, and white gives me headaches, so if I drink I have to balance the enjoyment with consequences :(
  • Xaa said:

    GRIM said:

    I am allergic to hops.

    It may be some small comfort to know that this allergy, while rare, is not unknown. 


    A bit, yes. XD  I just wish I coulda found out another way rather than trail and error.  That was a bad freakin' day.  *Chuckle*
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  • @ Ladyfur - "Mikhail" is one of Dar/Grim's recurring figments. I borrowed him for a picture; I'm rather a fan of Mik's. No, definitely NOT Barishnikov. Nothing so benign. Pardon the flirtation. image However, I will not pardon the Industrial Strength Elf (Ariolas, one of my figments) on the left. Dar's Mikhail is on the right.


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  • I wish to whine about Luthbel's latest efforts only going toward Genny/M5. *whine, whine, whine*  "Corsair" is beautiful.

    ETA - in another ten years, maybe I'll be that good at modeling. *heavysigh*
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  • Sooner, dear, sooner. I have faith.
    Suspiro ergo sum.
  • E*gads* those arms.... *licks*

    Erm... sorry. Ariolas is yummy. That is all.

    And I agree with Suro. It'll come sooner, :) 
  • I have to admit, Luthbel does amazing work. His clothing really is
    beautiful. However, I really hate Daz 4 pushing Genesis. I've used Genny
    and I must admit, it's pretty in an artistic way, but that's basically
    it. I love the idea that anything for the gen 4 figures will fit it
    (within reason) however, Daz 4 is so atrociously set up that it makes Poser look simple, which I'm now learning. Not to mention the backlash they're gaining from completely ignoring the input from their user community ( I myself have experienced this with countless emails sent to the Daz team only to be ignored. Not saying I expect undivided attention, but when a user for over 6 years reports a problem shouldn't I at least get a "Let me see if we can fix this so you can enjoy our new product" reply?) I think that in a few months
    when their sales hit rock bottom, that eventually Daz will get the point.
    What's the point in buying anything from them if the figure they're
    pushing so hard is not really that much of a marked improvement from gen
    4, not to mention incompatible with Poser.

    As far as body shapes and anatomy go, yes Genesis, and m5 have a long way to go. My biggest complaint about m4 was the area where the arm meets the shoulder. What a horrid mess that is. And because I like the "bodybuilder now" button it gets even worse in that area. The textures stretch almost like melted wax, and clothing 9 times out of 10 have their oddest fits or the most poke through in that spot. Along comes Genesis and if anything, they made the arms even worse in my opinion.
  • I decided a while back that I would only buy props and wardrobe if I actually had an immediate use for them. I have so much stuff in my runtime that I bought because I liked it and have never ever used, I figured that I would actually save money by paying full price for something when I needed it, rather than 'wasting' money on special offers that I've never used. I really might make an exception for the Corsair though as it a such a beautiful outfit, I'll just invent a whole scene around it. :)
  • :D Y'all are the best.

    Yes, that is one Industrial Strength Elf! Mikhail ain't half bad, neither, with that ankle-length hair and all. ;)  I feel certain that Elf would not mind at all being a lollypop for cute ladies. He's a very naughty, unseelie Elf.
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  • Re: Genny and DAZ -  time will tell, which is as much as I'm willing to speculate publicly.

    As Xaa said, pick something you like and stick with it. He's showed us that this method can get a LOT out of any figure. :)
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  • ok, mikhail is nice. not ballet, but nice.

    you won't believe this one though:

    for 10 years we were hosted by 100megs,
    great host. they were EATEN by jumpline.
    no comment. we left, got a new host, but...
    NOW IT SEEMS THEY DID NOT GIVE BACK
    OUR DOMAIN NAME!

    for months we thought we were rid of them.
    they sent a bill! now...

    it doesn't say jumpline on the whois, it says
    enom. but... enoms whois says our name
    is with... wait for it: myhostcenter which is...
    jumpline:( AND they did this in FEBRUARY,
    which was when we LEFT jumpline!!!

    i am beyond livid. in january it took 3 tries
    to get our domain transferred because they
    held it up :( they said they let it go.
    but they kept the NAME and LIED about it :(

    new host says we need to get auth. code,
    yet again, from this SCAM of a company,
    so that they can host our name (they have
    our domain itself) how many !!#$%%^^
    times must one demand a company like
    jumpline to stop holding things hostage???

    we are disabled and this is way beyond stressful.

    anybody have any words of wisdom? it's not
    our new host's doing... they are more than happy
    to help... once they get the secret code...

    (insert loud scream here)

    thank you, terre...

    ~^..^~ ladyfur
  • You're welcome. Good luck and more {{hugs}}. I'm afraid I've no idea how to go about solving your problem here.
  • Nanobot said:

    :D Y'all are the best.

    Yes, that is one Industrial Strength Elf! Mikhail ain't half bad, neither, with that ankle-length hair and all. ;)  I feel certain that Elf would not mind at all being a lollypop for cute ladies. He's a very naughty, unseelie Elf.


    :D  Yus- Ariolas is Chewable.  Thanks for that compliment on Mik. ;)  That hair tends to become a blanket.  *Grin!*
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  • Weird. Never even heard of Jumpline before today!  They both host web space AND register domains (not unusual).  I'm not quite certain what your problems are...you want to register your with a different host, hmm?

    These two things are quite separate transactions.

    For instance, I have five domains registered with dotster.com--have for a while, originally because they were far cheaper than Network Solutions--but I have cooltuna.com and a bunch of other parked domains through Network solutions, which cleaned up their act. I actually host with ICDSoft (who've been great!) It shouldn't be that difficult to move your domain registration, but it will require having your DNS server info available from the host of the actual web server.

    This is a page that covers transferring registration pretty well. http://www.active-domain.com/domain-transfer/

    This is what Network Solutions--the original web domain registrar--says about transferring. https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-transfer/index.jsp

    Mainly, you just need a registrar that is easy to work with--good web interface, easy-to-understand forms--and charges a decent price.
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  • Network Solutions charges about $35 a year for a single domain, no hosting. You can, of course, "park" domains on your main one--this is not actual new web space, but basically creates a pointer so that when someone types in http://www.fredman.me, for example, they get www.cooltuna.com.
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  • Dotster is still relatively inexpensive--$15/year to start with.

    Your hosting provider may also register for you--through one of the big ICANN registrars, like ecom, which ICDsoft also uses. It's not that big a deal. But if they're taking way too long, you do need some help. If you need to prove you are who you say you are, you may need to fax government ID of some sort to them and so forth. I think things have gotten more straightforward now.
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  • no, what happened is we DID move the domain and name back
    in february, but apparently jumpline did NOT release it :( so
    they sent a bill. we did contact them, angrily, and they sent a code
    so our new host since february WILL get it, IF we CONFIRM that yes,
    we really did authorize it. (sigh) what i suspect happened is this:

    100megs, a good host, sold out to jumpline last year.
    when all he// broke loose we left them. (87 k spam emails
    to our box in ONE DAY, shadow's birthday, nonetheless, in
    january, and they REFUSED to filter spam anymore unless we
    wanted to pay for a private server!) we ran, screaming from
    them to new webhost. jumpline held up the domain site transfer
    3 times. finally, they let it go in february. we were of the opinion
    that they released our domain at that same time.

    they didn't.

    i was on phone with new host, who was baffled. the name should have
    transferred in february with the domain itself! now... jumpline has this
    odd annoying bs thing that you have to confirm that yes, you want them
    to hth and stop holding you hostage... but... in feb. they lied and claimed
    they no longer had us.

    here's the glitch. our domain whois shows SOMEBODY renewed us in
    february. AFTER we told them not to! and, they shouldn't have, because
    we are paid up until july!!

    between that and the new daz website being slower than molasses,
    which i probably misspelled, my trust level of the internet is plummeting
    rapidly. i wish i could do art...

    anyway... just a headsup, the new daz formus cannot be posted to
    at all yet, nor is there much content on the site itself. it is so far
    not an improvement, which was what many of us figured would
    happen. i still miss artzone.

    the last thread on the commons yesterday got to 220 pages just
    before the site shut down...

    ok, i'll stop ranting.
    ~^..^~ ladyfur
  • Nanobot said:

    I wish to whine about Luthbel's latest efforts only going toward Genny/M5. *whine, whine, whine*  "Corsair" is beautiful.

    ETA - in another ten years, maybe I'll be that good at modeling. *heavysigh*



    OMG I knooooooow. I'm green with envy at all the newest products. Almost makes me want to make the switch just for the clothing.....Almost, ALMOST.

    But not really. B|
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  • Say hi to our newest member, TomMusic when he gets in! I hope he enjoys his stay. :)
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  • hi, tom, welcome.

    psst, nanobot, who is tom?
    ~^..^~ ladyfur
  • I don't know him well, but he's a fellow traveler who works in Poser Pro2012 and 3dsMax and wants to learn stuffs--so I invited him to sit in and see if he likes it.
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  • Hi Tom. Hope you like it here. :)
  • Utterly OT:

    For our dog owners: Dog-o-matic washing machine. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1183016/Is-Dog-o-Matic-owners-best-friend.html
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  • More vending crazeh. Pizza! In two minutes.


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