DS characters? You can't. You have to save them out as CR2s from DS then load them in Poser.

Well, to be clear, if you have P7 open with a character you like in the scene and all I'd zero the joint rotations (put him/her in the T pose) first. Save your pose with a Pose Dot. Then open the Joint Editor window and click the Zero Rotations button on the default "Centers" tab. Close that window, you won't need it again.

Then open the Character library and navigate to a folder where you want the character to go. You can save the character with absolutely everything it's got conformed or propped to it at the moment, and it includes the skin and morphs and position of the body and pose. To do this, click the + button on the bottom of the Character library panel. There may be a dialog that asks you if you want to save all the attached figures (clothing, hair)--that depends on you, really. The smartprops will go with the character--something I like so they can always have their jewelry on.

Once the thumbnail (a version of what's in your scene window) pops into that folder, you're done, and the CR2 is saved.

That's it. I suppose that's pretty much what a character preset does!  But it's not a scene, and the CR2 is designed to load into any scene just the way you saved it. Very handy.

By the way, the thumbnail is just a PNG file. You can render a nicer *square* picture, reduce it to 91x91 pixels, and use that in its place by just giving the nicer picture the same name (but with a png extension) as your CR2 file, replacing the icky one. That's all I do to create a custom thumb. Really, quite simple, if you have an image editor of some sort around.

Thanks, Nan, will try that later today, :D

And File>Export just gives options to export out as obj, bvh, dae and something called u3d...

The OBJ  *only* gets you the geometry and the simplest materials.

ladyfur said:

interrupting to ask one stupid question... what does the, 'u', and, 'v',
stand for? thank you...

Nothing.  The "UVW" letters were chosen to map to "XYZ" on the model.  Though "U" means X longitude while "V" means Y lattitude, there is no significance to the letters.

ty, zaa... you know, i should have guessed, no meaning...
that's just so... dazish.

Yep.  The term has been in use since the late eighties.

Jim, thanks. Hah, UVW may be DAZ-ish, but they didn't invent it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_mapping  There's actual math involved, so they're variables.

Nanobot said:

Well, I would have said you need to update the base figure as well. Yes, I've had that happen! Crazy!

It would not hurt to reinstall M4 and his packs, in case something got munged.

You can navigate through your file system to Runtime - Libraries - !DAZ and uh...there's an EXPfiles something M4.bat file there. Ack, I'm trying to do this from memory... Well, you just double-click on it there in its own directory and that little DOS scriptie should go and update things.

**Frankly, using their shortcut from the desktop sometimes does not work! Go navigate to the folder where the .bat file lives and invoke it from there.**

Now go and load the (refreshed) Base M4. Now go INJ the Base morphs and then the ++ morphs, Enhanced, Muscles, Elite, Ethnic, F4, whatever.

Save that figure as a CR2 file to you own folder in Characters for future reference.

Now try to INJ the character into the newly updated base with the required morphs.

I believe the order in which you do it is important.

You are....so gawddamn smart Q.Q!!  That did the trick and I'm so happy right now I could skip x3

Ahahahaha.... I was trying to make INJ and REM poses from a saved character--older than the most recent morphs... and no matter how I did it, I got a balloon head! My own advice didn't work. *headdesk*

1. Applied an older saved pz2 file to a blank newly set up M4
2. Created an FBM using Wardrobe Wizard
3. Saved new character
4. Went to Binary Morph Editor utility and created a PMD
5. Used that new PMD in Binary Morph Editor to create INJ and REM poses

Voila! Head balloons and torso twists! I got NO idea why.

If anyone has a brainstorm, please let me know. Meantime, off to query experts (like Ralph, who made PMDEdit). Well, tomorrow. Bedtime now.

I'm thinking it's more about how the PMD was made. No, head size dial has nothing to do with it. Nor did I have the Torso Twist dial pinned. And yet, the Alex FBM landed in the Morphorms area! Hmm.

Well, the PMD method was described in a training video from RDNA, and it used the PMD Edit utility that Ralph Sessler (Dimension3d) wrote. Which one writes FBMs? Actually, Poser Pro2012 writes them natively (as did 2010), come to think of it! Ugh, should have tried that, too.

The point was to get the morph information into an INJ file. There's more than one way to do that, but I can't recall for the life of me...ugh, bad memory day. Sort of like a "bad hair day" only it stays under the hat.

Well, if for whatever reason Ralph or ralf? Has trouble with his English let me know, since he is the one I meant. Found his PMD edit script while browsing his stuff. Sorry to be of no use whatsoever. Oh , the Dazfreebie of the week has janitorial goos from Valandar, he/she must have been browsing our forum here.

Well, I got a very nice reply and I *think* it clears things a bit:

First of all, the warning about dialed morphs in the product
description is to emphasize that the Binary Morph Editor works with the
deltas to define morphs, not with the dial settings to define characters
based on the morphs.

Now, from your description, I'm not sure what you want to achieve. Do
you want to create a pose that sets the dial values of your dialed
character? In that case, all you would have to do is saving a pose with
the morph values to the Poser library, and then filter it in Poser File
Editor to remove anything but the targetGeom and valueParm settings.
(This can also be done with the CR2 or even a scene with the figure.)
The result is a file with nothing but the dial settings that can be used
as INJ pose (more precisely, a MOR pose, because it only sets the
values, while an INJ pose would also inject the deltas).

surochek said:

Argh! Ok, while I'm learning and doing the other things I've set myself to learn and do, I'll keep saving my people as characters. I actually tried to figure this stuff out, but I'm just not ready to tackle it.

Thanks for posting all that search-and-discover for us!

This is why I use Evernote. Shoot, I can't recall where all this stuff was said six month later!

Oh wow!  Sweet!

Beautiful, my dear. They look like boots someone's actually worn! :D 

OH! Hi, Zaarin!

Would you post a linky at least? Much appreciated.

Making progress, there! :)

Yay!

lol Nearly there!

Yum

Wayii said:

Yum

I mean... They look so comfy and stylish. *sigh*